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		<title>Comment on Profits cost us cures by Medicine and the Unfree Market &#171; The Confluence</title>
		<link>http://www.molvray.com/acid-test/2007/08/profits-cost-us-cures/comment-page-1/#comment-25870</link>
		<dc:creator>Medicine and the Unfree Market &#171; The Confluence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] interference. It doesn&#8217;t work in medicine. At all. I wrote a post a while back about how Profits Cost Us Cures, but it goes way beyond the pharmaceutical industry and touches every aspect of [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Profits cost us cures by Acid Test &#187; Medicine and the Unfree Market</title>
		<link>http://www.molvray.com/acid-test/2007/08/profits-cost-us-cures/comment-page-1/#comment-25869</link>
		<dc:creator>Acid Test &#187; Medicine and the Unfree Market</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] interference. It doesn&#8217;t work in medicine. At all. I wrote a post a while back about how Profits Cost Us Cures, but it goes way beyond the pharmaceutical industry and touches every aspect of [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Stem Cells and Ethics by It&#8217;s about who decides &#171; The Confluence</title>
		<link>http://www.molvray.com/acid-test/2007/09/stem-cells-and-ethics/comment-page-1/#comment-25868</link>
		<dc:creator>It&#8217;s about who decides &#171; The Confluence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] post echoes my previous ones on this topic here, here, here, and here.)Tags: abortion, feminism, choice, pro-choice, pro-life Possibly related posts: [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on What women want &#8230; by It&#8217;s about who decides &#171; The Confluence</title>
		<link>http://www.molvray.com/acid-test/2007/06/what-women-want/comment-page-1/#comment-25867</link>
		<dc:creator>It&#8217;s about who decides &#171; The Confluence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] post echoes my previous ones on this topic here, here, here, and here.)Tags: abortion, feminism, choice, pro-choice, pro-life Possibly related posts: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] post echoes my previous ones on this topic here, here, here, and here.)Tags: abortion, feminism, choice, pro-choice, pro-life Possibly related posts: [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Choice or a Child? by It&#8217;s about who decides &#171; The Confluence</title>
		<link>http://www.molvray.com/acid-test/2004/05/choice-or-child/comment-page-1/#comment-25866</link>
		<dc:creator>It&#8217;s about who decides &#171; The Confluence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] post echoes my previous ones on this topic here, here, here, and here.)Tags: abortion, feminism, choice, pro-choice, pro-life Possibly related [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on What women want &#8230; by Acid Test &#187; It&#8217;s about who decides</title>
		<link>http://www.molvray.com/acid-test/2007/06/what-women-want/comment-page-1/#comment-25865</link>
		<dc:creator>Acid Test &#187; It&#8217;s about who decides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] post echoes my previous ones on this topic here, here, here, and here.) Tags: abortion, feminism, choice, pro-choice, [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on A Choice or a Child? by Acid Test &#187; It&#8217;s about who decides</title>
		<link>http://www.molvray.com/acid-test/2004/05/choice-or-child/comment-page-1/#comment-25864</link>
		<dc:creator>Acid Test &#187; It&#8217;s about who decides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] post echoes my previous ones on this topic here, here, here, and here.) Tags: abortion, feminism, choice, pro-choice, [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Single payer vs Public option by quixote</title>
		<link>http://www.molvray.com/acid-test/2009/06/single-payer-vs-public-option/comment-page-1/#comment-25863</link>
		<dc:creator>quixote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given the current behavior of the government that will be doing the intervening, I&#039;d have to say I agree with you.

The &lt;a href=&quot;http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2009/06/exclusive_the_finance_committe.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;latest proposal&lt;/a&gt; I&#039;ve heard is nothing but a government-sponsored way to hand over even more money to insurance companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the current behavior of the government that will be doing the intervening, I&#8217;d have to say I agree with you.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2009/06/exclusive_the_finance_committe.html" rel="nofollow">latest proposal</a> I&#8217;ve heard is nothing but a government-sponsored way to hand over even more money to insurance companies.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Single payer vs Public option by teqjack</title>
		<link>http://www.molvray.com/acid-test/2009/06/single-payer-vs-public-option/comment-page-1/#comment-25862</link>
		<dc:creator>teqjack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, the current system has multiple roblems - and ridiculous costs. On my last in-hospital stay, they wanted to keep me in for four days so they could administer some shots: I left after one night, pointing out that my mother was a practical nurse, two sisters were nurses, one niece was a nurse, another sister owned a nursing home with several nurses on staff, and I was quite capable of giving myself the shots (abdominal muscle, not needing to hit a vein) even without such support. Why should I pay circa $950/day to be bored out of my mind for service I could get for $80/day at a motel? 
 
OTOH I do not like either of the proposed systems, certainly mot as much as the present one. And when I see &quot;Private Delivery&quot; as the heading of the chart I immediately see egregious slanting. Medicare and Medicaid (and various more &quot;local&quot; State systems) are supposed to work this way, in that medical personnel/facilities are not formally part of the government[s]. But much like non-government plans they must follow rules from these fund-providers, but government is far slower (often by decades) to update the rules - and even slower to update compensation when costs change. 
 
Mind you, I am covered by Medicare and Medicaid myself, and at under $18k/annum income am grateful for it. But when I look at the plans and administration thereof in other countries I fear more government intervention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, the current system has multiple roblems &#8211; and ridiculous costs. On my last in-hospital stay, they wanted to keep me in for four days so they could administer some shots: I left after one night, pointing out that my mother was a practical nurse, two sisters were nurses, one niece was a nurse, another sister owned a nursing home with several nurses on staff, and I was quite capable of giving myself the shots (abdominal muscle, not needing to hit a vein) even without such support. Why should I pay circa $950/day to be bored out of my mind for service I could get for $80/day at a motel? </p>
<p>OTOH I do not like either of the proposed systems, certainly mot as much as the present one. And when I see &#8220;Private Delivery&#8221; as the heading of the chart I immediately see egregious slanting. Medicare and Medicaid (and various more &#8220;local&#8221; State systems) are supposed to work this way, in that medical personnel/facilities are not formally part of the government[s]. But much like non-government plans they must follow rules from these fund-providers, but government is far slower (often by decades) to update the rules &#8211; and even slower to update compensation when costs change. </p>
<p>Mind you, I am covered by Medicare and Medicaid myself, and at under $18k/annum income am grateful for it. But when I look at the plans and administration thereof in other countries I fear more government intervention.</p>
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		<title>Comment on My life in their claws by quixote</title>
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		<dc:creator>quixote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s what I want to know:  why is single payer &quot;off the table&quot;?  WHY?  

Apparently one big deal is that it&#039;s so much more efficient than the current system, it&#039;ll throw a couple of million people working for the insurance industry out of work.

Two things about that: Throwing people out of work doesn&#039;t seem to worry the powers-that-be much in any other context. If joblessness is the problem, come up with job training and transition packages for them and everyone else in that situation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what I want to know:  why is single payer &#8220;off the table&#8221;?  WHY?  </p>
<p>Apparently one big deal is that it&#8217;s so much more efficient than the current system, it&#8217;ll throw a couple of million people working for the insurance industry out of work.</p>
<p>Two things about that: Throwing people out of work doesn&#8217;t seem to worry the powers-that-be much in any other context. If joblessness is the problem, come up with job training and transition packages for them and everyone else in that situation!</p>
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		<title>Comment on My life in their claws by Greenconsciousness</title>
		<link>http://www.molvray.com/acid-test/2009/05/my-life-in-their-claws/comment-page-1/#comment-25860</link>
		<dc:creator>Greenconsciousness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 19:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BOs reform is going to force everyone to buy health insurance and he will fund those who cannot afford it by cutting Medicare and Medicaid benefits. BO does what is good for corporations and they fund his campaigns and promote him in the media they own.  The working class is thrown to the predatory credit economy and sweat ed from birth until life closes. Single payer would have stopped that and been a blessing but it will not happen.  there will be reform in name only like Bush&#039;s prescription coverage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BOs reform is going to force everyone to buy health insurance and he will fund those who cannot afford it by cutting Medicare and Medicaid benefits. BO does what is good for corporations and they fund his campaigns and promote him in the media they own.  The working class is thrown to the predatory credit economy and sweat ed from birth until life closes. Single payer would have stopped that and been a blessing but it will not happen.  there will be reform in name only like Bush&#8217;s prescription coverage.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vote &#8220;present.&#8221; It&#8217;s important. by Acid Test &#187; My life in their claws</title>
		<link>http://www.molvray.com/acid-test/2008/10/vote-present-its-important/comment-page-1/#comment-25841</link>
		<dc:creator>Acid Test &#187; My life in their claws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 16:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] uncomfortable Hope(tm) feeling. They never did specify what they were hoping for. Turned out to be rather different from what I was hoping for. Now they&#8217;re going to reform health care from a Kafkaesque trap to . . . to what? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] uncomfortable Hope(tm) feeling. They never did specify what they were hoping for. Turned out to be rather different from what I was hoping for. Now they&#8217;re going to reform health care from a Kafkaesque trap to . . . to what? [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vote &#8220;present.&#8221; It&#8217;s important. by The Confluence</title>
		<link>http://www.molvray.com/acid-test/2008/10/vote-present-its-important/comment-page-1/#comment-25840</link>
		<dc:creator>The Confluence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 16:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] uncomfortable Hope(tm) feeling. They never did specify what they were hoping for. Turned out to be rather different from what I was hoping for. Now they&#8217;re going to reform health care from a Kafkaesque trap to . . . to what? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] uncomfortable Hope(tm) feeling. They never did specify what they were hoping for. Turned out to be rather different from what I was hoping for. Now they&#8217;re going to reform health care from a Kafkaesque trap to . . . to what? [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Science Education: Who Needs It? by quixote</title>
		<link>http://www.molvray.com/acid-test/2009/04/science-education-who-needs-it/comment-page-1/#comment-25832</link>
		<dc:creator>quixote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 13:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, some teachers do use examples from current events, some are constrained by their school boards from teaching anything not explicitly on the curriculum, some are constrained by No Child Left Behind (which should be called All Kids Left Behind So We Can&#039;t Tell The Difference), and some, as you say, don&#039;t care or don&#039;t know.

What you&#039;re really talking about is teaching quality, which isn&#039;t the same thing as school administrations stopping science classes.  

It is related, though, because they&#039;re both really about money. Classes, but especially science classes, cost money.  You get good teachers when a) they&#039;re paid enough, b) class sizes are small enough so that they can do more than crowd control, c) their workloads are not overwhelming and they can pay attention to individual students.  Oh, and they don&#039;t have some official with no knowledge of subject matter or teaching telling them what to teach.  All that *really* costs money.

So I&#039;m not convinced that the problems in schools caused by underfunding can be solved by giving them less funding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, some teachers do use examples from current events, some are constrained by their school boards from teaching anything not explicitly on the curriculum, some are constrained by No Child Left Behind (which should be called All Kids Left Behind So We Can&#8217;t Tell The Difference), and some, as you say, don&#8217;t care or don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>What you&#8217;re really talking about is teaching quality, which isn&#8217;t the same thing as school administrations stopping science classes.  </p>
<p>It is related, though, because they&#8217;re both really about money. Classes, but especially science classes, cost money.  You get good teachers when a) they&#8217;re paid enough, b) class sizes are small enough so that they can do more than crowd control, c) their workloads are not overwhelming and they can pay attention to individual students.  Oh, and they don&#8217;t have some official with no knowledge of subject matter or teaching telling them what to teach.  All that *really* costs money.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m not convinced that the problems in schools caused by underfunding can be solved by giving them less funding.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Science Education: Who Needs It? by psikeyhackr</title>
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		<dc:creator>psikeyhackr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 22:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t here high school physics teachers talking about what the conservation of momentum has to do with wheter or not a skyscraper can collapse in less thn 18 seconds.

Why are we supposed to pay the taxes to pay the salaries of educators that don&#039;t know physics?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXAerZUw4Wc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t here high school physics teachers talking about what the conservation of momentum has to do with wheter or not a skyscraper can collapse in less thn 18 seconds.</p>
<p>Why are we supposed to pay the taxes to pay the salaries of educators that don&#8217;t know physics?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXAerZUw4Wc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXAerZUw4Wc</a></p>
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		<dc:creator>Swine Flu stuff &#8212; Hoyden About Town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 02:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] won&#8217;t. For balance, quixote has a flu faction and fiction post on Shakesville (read the earlier post on Bird Flu at his own blog as [...]</description>
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